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Ancestors of Robert Erwin William Juch

Thirty-First Generation


1221079040. Baldricus de Courcy Lord de Bacqueville en Caux "Teutonicus" was born about 969. He married Alix de Clare. [Parents]

1221079041. Alix de Clare.

They had the following children:

610539520 M i Richard de Novallia was born about 1010 and died about 1066.

1221132288. Thomas De Sao Leodegario 1 was born about 1144 in Ulcombe, Kent, England. [Parents]

He had the following children:

610566144 M i Sir Ralph 'The Crusader' St. Leger was born about 1170.

1221165280. Radulph de Briwere was born about 1026 in Normandy, France.

He had the following children:

610582640 M i Drogo (Brogo) de Briwere died about 1066.

1221165286. Robert de Beaumont Count of Meullent was born 1140 in Meulan, Aquitaine, France. He died Oct 1207 in Palestine. Robert married Maud de Dunstanville.

1221165287. Maud de Dunstanville was born 1143 in Dunstanville, Kent, England. [Parents]

They had the following children:

610582643 F i Maud de Beaumont was born 1168 and died 1 May 1204.

1221165832. Walter (Gautier) II "The White" de Valois Count of Vexin was born about 944 in Vexin, Normandy, France. He died 1027. Walter married Adele de Senlis on 974. [Parents]

1221165833. Adele de Senlis was born about 944 in Isle de France, France. [Parents]

They had the following children:

F i
Alix de Vexin was born 970 in Mellent, Normandy, France.
M ii
Walter "Dreux" de Vexin Count of Mantes and the Vexin was born 979 in Normandy, France. He died 1 Jul 1035 in Bithynia, Turkey.
610582916 M iii Count Raoul II de Vexin was born 980 and died 1030.

1221165834. Gilduin (Hilduin) de Breteuil Viscount of Chartres was born 981. He died 18 May 1060. Gilduin married Emeline de Chateuaudun. [Parents]

1221165835. Emeline de Chateuaudun.

They had the following children:

610582917 F i Adela de Breteuil died 11 Sep 1051.

1221165840. Henry de Ferrers 1st Earl Ferrers was born about 1040. He married Bertha on 1061 in Normandy, France. [Parents]

He is widely believed to have fought at the Battle of Hastings, 1066, as his name appears on various versions of the Battle Abbey Roll,
though it is impossible to be certain. He was a Domesday Commissioner, 1086, and held some 210 lordships and manors at the time of the Survey, mostly inco. Derby, by gift of William the Conqueror. Founded a priory of Benedictine monks near Tutbury, Staffs.

HENRY DE FERRERS
The Conqueror and His Companions
by J. R. Planché, Somerset Herald. London: Tinsley Brothers, 1874..

"Henri le Sire de Ferriers," commemorated by Wace as a combatant at Senlac, was Seigneur de Saint Hilaire de Ferriers, near Bernay, and son of Walkelin de Ferrers, who fell in a contest with the first Hugh de Montfort we hear of in the early days of Duke William II, and therefore, though a younger son, for he had an elder brother named Guillaume, who Monsieur de Pluquet tells us, was also in the great battle, must have been well advanced in years in 1066.

Whatever his services, it was not till after Hugh d'Avranches was created Earl of Chester, in 1071, that Henry de Ferrers received at least the Castle of Tutbury, his "caput Baronie," which had been previously granted to the said Hugh, and resigned by him on becoming Earl of Chester. In 1085, we find him appointed one of the commissioners for the general survey of the kingdom, and in that year he is recorded as the holder, besides the Castle of Tutbury, of seven lordships in Staffordshire, twenty in Berkshire, three in Wiltshire, five in Essex, seven in Oxfordshire, two in Lincolnshire, two in Buckinghamshire, one in Gloucestershire, two in Herefordshire, three in Hampshire, thirty-five in Leicestershire, six in Warwickshire, three in Nottinghamshire, and one hundred and fourteen in Derbyshire! When bestowed, however, or how obtained, whether wholly by grant of the King, or partly by marriage, is not recorded. Neither have we succeeded in identifying his wife, Berta, in conjunction with whom he founded and richly endowed the Priory of Tutbury in 1089, "by the concession and authority of William the younger (Rufus), King of the English." The date of his death also is unknown; but he had issue three sons, Enguenulf, William, and Robert. The two eldest died in his lifetime without issue, and Robert, who succeeded him, was the first Earl of Ferrers, not Earl Ferrers, as incorrectly described, by some, but "Robertus, Comes de Ferrarius" or "de Ferriers," as in the charter of the second Earl Robert, who was also Earl of Nottingham, and according to Orderic Vital, the first Earl of Derby.

It is no part of the plan of this work to enter into details respecting the descendants of the actual companions of the Conqueror, but there are exceptions to most, if not to all, rules, and there is so little to be said about Henry de Ferrers, and so much about his immediate successors, that I am tempted to depart from my own rule on this occasion.

There is considerable difference of opinion, in the absence of indubitable facts, as to which of these two Roberts - father and son - distinguished himself in the famous battle at Northallerton, known as the Battle of the Standard, also as to the exact period at which the earldoms of Nottingham and Derby were conferred upon an Earl of Ferrers; but the principal bone of contention is the identification of the fortunate member of that family who married Margaret, daughter and heiress of William Peverel, Lord of Nottingham, who was dispossessed of his estates by King Henry II, for conspiring with Maud, Countess of Chester, to poison her husband, Ranulph Gernons, Earl of Chester, in 1155.

Now this is a very curious story, which has been received in perfect confidence, and handed down from writer to writer, as a portion of the history of England, until, at the Newark Congress of the British Archaeological Association, I ventured to question the very existence even of the Margaret Peverel, who has been married by various genealogists to at least three successive Earls of Ferrers.

In the charter of King Stephen to the monks of Lanton we find mention of this William Peverel, of his wife Oddona, and his son Henry, at that time most probably his heir apparent; but there is no notice of any daughter, and the rolls of the reign of Henry 1, Stephen, and Henry II, in which mention is made of many Peverels, including the mother and sister of William Peverel of Nottingham, are equally silent on the score of a daughter, and acknowledge no Margaret Peverel of any branch.

Vincent gives Margaret to the first Earl William, who tells us himself that his wife's name was Sibilla; others to William's father, the second Robert, who explicitly declares that his wife was another Sibilla, daughter of William, Lord Braose of Bramber; and my dear lamented friend, the late Rev. C. Hartshorne, in the "Archæological Journal" (vol. v., p. 129), calls Margaret the wife of the first Robert, who married Hawise de Vitry.

For the proof that William was the happy man we are referred to the Oblate Boll of the 1st of John, in which it is said that William, the third earl of that name, calls Margaret his grandmother. Now here is the entry referred to, in which you will find no such thing: - "The Earl of Ferrers gives two thousand marks for Hecham, Blidsworth, and Newbottle, that the King may forego all claim to other lands which were William Peverel's, and the King gives to him the park of Hecham, which the Lord Henry, his great-grandfather (that is, King Henry II) gave in exchange to the ancestors of William Peverel," Where is Margaret? Where any mention of the grandmother of the Earl of Ferrers?

The next reference is to a plea-roll of the 25th of Henry III, which certainly proves that some Earl of Ferrers assumed a right of heirship to William Peverel, but by no means hints that it was in right of his wife, or makes any mention of Margaret. The words are remarkable. The Earl of Ferrers is therein stated to have made himself heir of the aforesaid William Peverel, and to have intruded himself into the same inheritance during the war between the King and his barons. Now, we are told that one of the earliest acts of Henry II in the year after his accession, viz., 1155, was to disinherit William Peverel, the staunch supporter of his old rival Stephen, upon the opportune charge of poisoning the Earl of Chester, as before mentioned. Henry himself does not charge him specifically with it, but the cause is distinctly stated by the Chronicon Roffense, the register of Dunstable, Matthew Paris, Matthew of Westminster, and Gervase of Dover, a goodly array of highly respectable authorities.
But how are we to reconcile this statement with the fact that Henry, before he ascended the throne, most probably at the time of the pacification with Stephen in 1152, and certainly not later than 1153, in which year Earl Eanulph died, gave to this very Ranulph the man Peverel is accused of poisoning, with other large estates of hostile nobles, the castle and town of Nottingham, and the whole fee of William Peverel, wherever it was (with the exception of Hecham) unless he (William Peverel) could acquit and clear himself of his wickedness and treason? Are we not justified in believing, upon the evidence of this agreement - for such is the nature of the instrument, which is witnessed by parties both for Henry and Ranulph, - that Peverel was dispossessed of his estates, not for assisting to poison the Earl of Chester, for to that very Earl the estates are given, but for wickedness and treason generally - in plain words, for supporting Stephen manfully and faithfully against Henry and his mother.

Such was evidently the opinion of Sir Peter Leycester, who printed this important document at length in his "Prolegomena," prefaced with these words, "How Randal Earl of Chester was rewarded for taking part with Henry Fitz-Empress, being yet but Duke of Normandy and Earl of Anjou, may appear by this deed following." No hint of its being a compensation to him for injury inflicted by Peverel.

And what was the punishment of the Countess Maud, the supposed accomplice of Peverel, and if so, the most culpable of the twain? She survived the Earl her husband many years, and her name is associated with that of her son, Hugh Kevilioc, in several acts of benevolence and piety, amongst them actually the purchase of absolution for her husband, who died excommunicated.

Hugh Kevilioc, who succeeded to his father's earldom with all his possessions, had a daughter named Agnes, who became the wife of William, second of that name, Earl of Ferrers and Derby, and thus it is clearly evident how that Earl made himself heir of Peverel and intruded himself into that inheritance, having purchased Hecham of the King, which had been excepted from the rest of the fee of Peverel in the grant of Henry Duke of Normandy to Ranulph Gernons, and claiming heirship to the estates of Peverel, in right of his wife Agnes, sister and co-heir of Ranulph Blondeville, Earl of Chester, the grandson of the grantee, and not through any marriage with this phantom Margaret Peverel, no trace of whom has ever been found in one authentic document.

The reputed victim of Peverel's machinations is said by King, in his "Vale Royal," to have died after lingering in agonies, which I suspect to be an absurd translation of the "post multos agones" of Gervase of Dover. His words are, "post multos agones militaris gloriæ," and the context proves that the words do not apply to bodily torture, but to struggles or contests as a soldier in pursuit of military glory. (Vide Ducange sub agonia and agonizare.) What conclusive proof have we that Ranulph, Earl of Chester died of poison at all? "Ut fama fuit" is all Gervase of Dover can say about it.

1221165841. Bertha was born about 1040.

They had the following children:

610582920 M i Robert de Ferrers 1st Earl of Derby was born 1062 and died 1139.

1221165844. William de Peverel was born 1062.

He had the following children:

610582922 M i William "The Younger" Peverel was born 1080 and died 1155.

1221165846. Roger de Montgomery Count la Marche was born 1058 in St Germain Montgomery, Normandy, France. He died 1102. Roger was married after 1079. [Parents]

He had the following children:

610582923 F i Avice de Lancaster was born 1088 and died 1149.

1221165852. Walter FitzRoger Sheriff of Gloucester is printed as #610583298.

1221165853. Emma de Ballon was born 1 about 1070 in Ballon, Maine, France.

They had the following children:

610582926 M i Miles Fitzwalter Earl of Hereford was born 1092 and died 24 Dec 1143.

1221165854. Bernard de Neufmarche Lord of Brecon was born about 1050 in Newmarche, France. He died 1093. [Parents]

He had the following children:

610582927 F i Sybil de Neufmarche was born before 1093 and died after 1143.

1221165856. Anschitil de Bayeaux Viscount of Bessin was born 972 in Bayeux, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France. He died after 1031. Anschitil married Poppa de Senlis. [Parents]

1221165857. Poppa de Senlis was born 996 in Picardie, France. [Parents]

They had the following children:

610582928 M i Ranulph "The Rich" de Bayeaux was born about 1018 and died 1075.
F ii
Emma (Alberade) de Bayeaux was born 1020.

1221165858. Richard III "le Bon" Duke of Normandy is printed as #610582932.

1221165859. Adela Capet Princess of France was born 1009 in France. She died 8 Jan 1078/1079 in Monastere De l'O, Messines, France and was buried in Monastere De l'O, Messines, France. [Parents]

They had the following children:

610582929 F i Alice (Alix) of Normandy was born about 1025.

1221165860. Thurstan le Goz Lord of Heismes was born about 989 in Normandy, France. He died about 1041.

He had the following children:

610582930 M i Richard le Goz Viscount of Avranches was born about 1025 and died 1066.
M ii
Robert Bigod was born 1015 in Avranches, Normandy, France. He died 1071.

1221165862. Harlevin de Conteville was born 1001 in Conteville, France. He died 1041. Harlevin married Hariette de Falaise Officer of the Household estimated 1035. [Parents]

1221165863. Hariette de Falaise Officer of the Household was born 1003 in Falaise, Normandy, France. She died 1035 and was buried in Abbey of St Grestain, France. [Parents]

They had the following children:

M i
Robert de Conteville Count de Mortaigne was born 1037 in Mortaigne, France.
610582931 F ii Emma de Conteville was born 1043.

1221165864. Richard II "The Good" Duke of Normandy was born 958 in of Normandy, France. He died 28 Aug 1027 in Fecamp, Seine-Inferieure, France and was buried in Fecamp, Seine-Inferieure, France. Richard married Judith of Brittany on 994 in Normandy, France. [Parents]

1221165865. Judith of Brittany was born 974 in of Bretagne, France. She died 1017 in of Normandy, France. [Parents]

They had the following children:

610582932 M i Richard III "le Bon" Duke of Normandy was born about 997 and died 6 Aug 1028.
M ii
Robert I "The Magnificent" 6th Duke of Normandy was born 1003 in Normandy, France. He died 22 Jun 1035 in Nice, Bithynia, Turkey.

Robert contributed to the restoration of Henry King of France to his throne and received from the gratitude of that monarch the Vexin as an addition to his patrimonial domains. In the 8th year of his reign, curiosity or devotion induced him to undertake a pilgrimage to the Holy Land, where the fatigues of the journey and the heat of the climate so impaired his constitution he died on his way home.

Some sources call him Robert I the Magnificent!
M iii
William (Nicholas) Monk at Fecamp was born 1001. He died Jun 1025.
F iv
Adelaide (Judith) Countess of Burgundy was born 1003 in Normandy, France. She died 1071 in France.

1221165866. Simon I de Montfort is printed as #943735416.

1221165867. Agnes d'Evereaux is printed as #943735417.

They had the following children:

610582933 F i Bertrade de Montfort was born about 1059 and died 14 Feb 1117.
M ii
Amauri IV de Montfort Count Evereux 1 was born about 1070 in Montfort, Ile de France, France. He died 2 1137.

Amauri joined with King William II Rufus in his attacks against the Castles at Montfort and Epernon, which were defended by Armuari's brother, Simon II. Amauri became the Baron of Montfort after his brother, Simon, died in 1103. Amauri obtained more land by seizing Evreaux after King Henry I denied it to him.

He continued his quarrel with Henry by joining forces against him along with his future son-in-law, Waleran II, the County of Meulan. A year later, in 1124, Amuari was captured at the battle of Bourgtheroulde by William de Grandcourt. William could not make himself hand over his prisoner to the king, so Amauri and William were both exiled, but they later made peace with the king.
M iii
Simon II de Montfort was born about 1065. He died 1103.

1221165868. Leofric III Earl of Mercia was born 14 May 968 in Mercia, England. He died 31 Aug 1057 in Bromley, Stafford, England. Leofric married Godiva before 1030. [Parents]

1221165869. Godiva was born 980 in Mercia, England. She died 10 Sep 1067 and was buried in of Coventry, Warwickshire, England. [Parents]

They had the following children:

610582934 M i AElfgar III Earl of Mercia was born before 1002 and was buried 1059.

1221165870. AEthelred II "The Unready" King of England was born 967 in Wessex, England. He died 23 Apr 1016 in London, Middlesex, England and was buried in Paul's, London, Middlesex, England. AEthelred married AElgifu (Elgiva) Gunnarson on 985. [Parents]

1221165871. AElgifu (Elgiva) Gunnarson was born about 970 in Wessex, England. [Parents]

They had the following children:

M i
Edmund II "Ironside" King of England was born 989 in Wessex, England. He died 30 Nov 1016 in London, Middlesex, England and was buried in Glastonbury, Somersetshire, England.

The death of Edmund Ironside so soon after his peace treaty with Canute has always been suspicious. Although the offcial story was that he died of natural cuases, at least one chronicler claimed that he was murdered. The assassin apparently hid under the king's privy and, when the king came to relieve himself, he was stabbed twice up through the bowels. He is the only king believed to have been murdered on the toilet, though George II also died (of a heart attack) while going to the lavatory.
610582935 F ii AElgifu (Elgiva) was born about 997.

1221165984. Gwerystan ap Gwaithfoed was born about 970 in Powys, Wales. He married Nest verch Cadell. [Parents]

1221165985. Nest verch Cadell was born about 970 in Powys, Wales. [Parents]

They had the following children:

610582992 M i Cynfyn ap Gwerystan was born about 1002.
F ii
verch Gwerystan was born about 1004 in Powys, Wales.
F iii
Elinor verch Gwerystan was born about 1007 in Powys, Wales.

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