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Ancestors of Robert Erwin William Juch

Thirtieth Generation

(Continued)


610583532. Robert II de Vitre was born about 1090 in Vitre, Ille-et-Vilaine, Brittany, France. He died before 1161. Robert married Emma de la Guerche.

610583533. Emma de la Guerche was born about 1100 in France.

They had the following children:

305291766 M i Robert III de Vitre was born about 1120 and died 1174.

610583534. Alan de Dinan 1 was born about 1100 in Burton, England. He died 1150. Alan married Agnorie of Brittany.

610583535. Agnorie of Brittany 1 was born about 1110 in Brittany, France.

They had the following children:

305291767 F i Emma de Dinan was born about 1128.

610583540. Henry I "Beauclerc" King of England is printed as #305291778.

610583541. Nest verch Rhys is printed as #305291745.

They had the following children:

305291770 M i Henry FitzHenry was born about 1103 and died 1157.

610583556. William I "The Conqueror" King of England was born 14 Oct 1024 in Falaise, Normandy, France. He died 9 Sep 1087 in Priory of St. Gervais, Rouen, France. William married Matilda of Flanders on 1053 in Cathedral of Notre Dame d'Eu, Normandy, France. [Parents]

Reigned 1066-1087. Duke of Normandy 1035-1087. Invaded England defeated and killed his rival Harold at the Battle of Hastings and became King. The Norman conquest of England was completed by 1072 aided by the establishment of feudalism under which his followers were granted land in return for pledges of service and loyalty. As King William was noted for his efficient if harsh rule. His administration relied upon Norman and other foreign personnel especially Lanfranc Archbishop of Canterbury. In 1085 started Domesday Book.

610583557. Matilda of Flanders was born 1032 in Flanders, France. She died 2 Nov 1083 in Caen, Normandy, France and was buried in Holy Trinity Abbey, Caen, Normandy, France. [Parents]

They had the following children:

M i
Robert II "Curthose" Duke of Normandy was born 1054 in Normandy, France. He died 10 Feb 1133/1134 in Cardiff Castle.

CHAPTER II: THE FAMILY OF THE CONQUEROR
The Conqueror and His Companions
by J.R. Planché, Somerset Herald. London: Tinsley Brothers, 1874........

I introduce here the few observations I have to make on the uncertain and disputed points in the history of William the Conqueror, his queen and family, to which I alluded at the commencement of the former chapter, in lieu of placing them as an appendix at the end of the volume, as they principally turn on questions of date, and those who care to discuss them would naturally desire to do so before passing to other subjects. The less curious reader can "skip and go on."

The first and most important date open to controversy is that of the birth of William-most important because it affects all the rest...

The latest investigators place it in 1027 or 1028, and one (Mons. Deville) endeavours to fix it exactly to the month of June or of July in the former year.

Were it a question of only a few weeks or a few months I should not have thought it necessary to moot it here; but it is one of years, and of much more consequence than it appears at first sight.

The calculations of the upholders of the dates 1027-28 are founded on:

1. The contract of marriage of Duke Richard II and Judith, the parents of Robert, said to be dated in 1008. According to this date, Robert being their second son, would hardly have been born before 1010, and could be only seventeen or eighteen at the birth of William, and consequently his passion for Herleve was that of a boy of sixteen or seventeen at the utmost.

2. A charter granted by Robert previous to his departure on pilgrimage to Jerusalem dated in the ides of January, 1035, and as it is agreed on all hands that William was between seven and eight years old when his father left Normandy, that would place his birth in 1027-28.

3. The cartulary recently discovered at Falaise recording William's birth and baptism therein 1027.

4. The statement of Guillaume de Jumièges that William was not quiteeeeee sixty at his death iiin 1087.

A sort of collateral substantiation of the date of the pilgrimage I find also in the story told by the author of the "Gesta Consulum Andegavensium," of the meeing of Duke Robert with Fulk Nera, Count of Anjou, at Constantinople in 1035, and their travelling thence to the Holy Land together, escorted by some merchants of Antioch, who had offered to be their guides. Robert becoming fatigued was carried in a litter by four Moors. A Norman pilgrim returning from Jerusalem, meeting his sovereign with this equipage, asked if he had any message to send to his friends. "Tell them," said the Duke, "that thou sawest me borne to Paradise by four devils." But it is to be observed that Fulk was also a pilgrim to the Holy Land in 1028, and that the compiler of "L'Art de Vérifierrr lesssss Dates" remarks that the work I have quoted "ne mérititite ppp papass beaucouppp de créance."""""""""

On the other hand we have also to consider the statement of William himself, who, according to Orderic, declared on his death-bed that he was sixty-four, which would make him born in 1023; that he was eight years old when his father went into what he calls voluntary exile, and that he had ruled the duchy fifty-six years, thus placing the death of Robert in 1031. That date is supported by the perfectly independent testimony of the Saxon Chronicle, which becomes more trustworthy in the eleventh century, wherein we read, "A 1031. . . . and Robert, Earl of Normandy, went to Jerusalem and there died, and William, who was afterwards king in England, succeeded to Normandy, though he was but a child." The words I have printed in italics, however, detract from the value of the evidence; as they must have been written at least thirty-five years after the event, and perhaps much later.

The Peterborough and Canterbury chronicles follow the Saxon, and Roger of Wendover and Matthew of Westminster are merely copyists of the earlier writers.

I have seen too many errors in the dates of charters and other MSS., arising from clerical or typographical carelessness, to pin my faith upon any copy, printed or other, even when the original document is undoubtedly genuine, and therefore hesitate to accept the date accorded to the contract of marriage of Richard and Judith, particularly as there are several obvious inaccuracies in the copy printed in Martene (Thesaurus Novus Anecdotorum, vol. i.).

Judith was the only child of Conan le Tort, Count of Rennes, by his second wife Ermengarde, daughter of Geoffrey Grisegonelle, married according to the "Chroniques de Mont St. Michel" in 9 70. Conan was slain at the battle of Conquereux in 992. Now, if these dates can be at all relied on, what age was Judith likely to be in 1008, if not married till then? At what period of the two-and-twenty years of her parents' married life was she born? If in the ordinary course of nature, she must have been five- or six-and-thirty in 1008!

Judith died in 1017, the mother of five children: Richard, Robert, Guillaume, Alix (also called Judith), and Eleanore; and if only married in 1008 her eldest son Richard could scarcely have been born before 1009, and Robert, as already remarked, 1010. Whether Guillaume or Alix was their third child is uncertain, but before 1025 Alix was the wife of Renaud, son of Otto-Guillaume, Count of Burgundy, who, having fallen into the power of Hugues, Bishop of Auxerre and Count of Chalons, was strictly confined in prison by that prelate. Richard II, Duke of Normandy, thereupon sent his sons, Richard and Robert, with an army to relieve their brother-in-law, and Count Hugues was compelled to present himself with a saddle on his back (the usual custom at that period) and crave mercy at the hands of the sons of the Duke of Normandy.

Now, doubting that young warriors were mere boys of fifteen and sixteen years of age in 1025 (Richard, the eldest, dying in 1027, and leaving a natural son named Nicholas, who was Abbot of St. Ouen in 1042), I cannot bring myself to believe in the "extreme youth" of Robert, as pointed out by Mons. Deville, and without presuming to fix an exact date, believe that both Richard and Robert were nearly of full age at the death of their father, whether that event occurred in 1026 or 1027.

Leaving, therefore, the precise period of the birth of William the Conqueror still undecided, the weight of evidence inclining rather to 1027, let us hasten to the consideration of the equally vexed question concerning the number and ages of his family, consisting undoubtedly of four sons, and presumably of five or six daughters. [Freeman: Nor. Con., vol. v. [. 468, note4.]

Notwithstanding the various and conflicting dates suggested for the marriage of William and Matilda, ranging from 1047 to 1053, I think we may consider it sufficiently proved that it was solemnized at the close of 1053 or beginning of 1054, and that Robert, their first child, was born in the course of the latter year.

Their second child I take to have been Adeliza, eldest daughter, born apparently in 1055, being seven years old in 1062, when betrothed to Harold, and dead before 1066, as her decease was the undeniable answer of the Saxon king to one of William's charges of broken faith.

Cecilia must have been the third child, as she was clearly born in 1056, dedicated to the service of God by her father and mother at the consecration of the Church of the Holy Trinity, Caen, 18th June, 1066, was elected abbess on the death of Matilda, the first abbess, in 1112, and died on the 30th of July, 1125, in the seventieth year of her age.

The fourth child appears to have been Richard, born 1057-58, who, with his younger brother, William (fifth child), born 1060, witnessed the consecration of the Church of the Holy Trinity at Caen in 1066.

Richard was killed in the New Forest by accident during the reign of his father in England; and his brother William, surnamed Rufus, who succeeded the Conqueror as King of England, met his death, as is well known, A.D. 1100, in the same forest, doomed apparently to be fatal to the progeny of the heartless despot who had sacrificed to his passion for the chase the homes and hearths of thousands of his unfortunate subjects.

The sixth child I take to be Constance, born in 1061, married to Alain, Duke of Brittany, in 1086, and who died, poisoned by her own servants, according to some writers, on the 13th of August, 1094, at the early age of thirty-three.

Mrs. Green, notwithstanding she places her birth "most likely about 1057," subsequently tells us, upon the authority of no less than four chronicles, that she died in 1094 " when she had scarcely attained her thirty-third year." If the latter statement is to be depended upon, she must have been born in 1061, and the probabilities are all in favour of that date. Miss Strickland, by a curious inadvertency, makes Constance die some years before her mother, "after seven years' unfruitful marriage." The marriage having taken place three years after her mother's death!

The seventh child I believe to have been Adela, born circa 1062, married, at Chartres in 1080, to Stephen, Count of Blois and Chartres, and deceased in 1137, in tbe seventy-fourth year of her age.

Agatha, believed by Mrs. Green to be also Matilda, whose name appears in Domesday, the eighth and last child born in Normandy, circa 1064, was promised to Edwin, the Saxon Earl of Chester, in 1067, when only three years old, and after his death contracted to Alfonso 1, King of Castile and Galicia. She died on her journey to Spain, having, as the story goes, prayed she might not live to be married, and by unceasing genuflections caused a horny substance to form on her knees.

More incredible is the sentimental account of "blighted hopes" and "crushed affections" indulged in by Mrs. Green, as the child was but three years old when she first saw the "fair-haired Saxon," seven when her "lover" was murdered, and scarcely fifteen when she was contracted to Alfonso; for she must have been dead in 1080, as in that year the Castilian monarch married the daughter of the Duke of Burgundy.

This is of course according to my calculation, which I by no means presume to be irrefutable, and also applies solely to Agatha, leaving it to others to identify her with Matilda "filiae regis," whose chamberlain (Geoffrey) held lands in Hampshire of the King for service rendered to his said daughter. That there was a Matilda, daughter of King William, is undeniable, not only from the entry in Domesday, but from her being named with her sisters Adelaide and Constance in an encyclical letter to the nuns of the Holy Trinity at Caen in 1112. But as the survey was only begun in 1085, and completed in 1086, it will be difficult, I think, to prove that Agatha, who must have been dead in 1080, was the same daughter as Matilda, supposed to be living five or six years later.

Henry, afterwards King Henry 1, the youngest of the whole family, was the only child born in England, and the date of his birth is generally acknowledged to be 1068, his mother having come over from Normandy for her coronation in that year. Now let us see when it would be possible that a tenth child, if not a twin, could have been born to William by his duchess, and of sufficient age to have a chamberlain appointed to her before 1085.

Robert, born 1054.
Adeliza, born 1055; dead before 1066.
Cecilia, born 1058.
Richard, born 1057-58.
William, born 1060.
Constance, born 1061.
Adela, born 1062.
Agatha, born 1064; dead before 1080.
Henry, born 1068.

The ingenious theory that Matilda was no other than the mysterious Gundrada, the former name being simply a translation of the latter, is negatived by the fact that Gundrada died wife of William de Warren in 1085, while the survey was in the course of compilation. That one daughter should have been named after her mother is most natural. That the King had a daughter so named, and that she was apparently living in 1085, must be conceded; but that she was the same person as Agatha "the inexorable logic of facts" positively contradicts. There is just the possibility of its being Constance, who survived her mother, and was married to Alain, Duke of Brittany, as before stated, in 1086. She is said to have been the favourite daughter and companion of Queen Matilda, and for nearly six years the only princess at Court. At the period of her niother's death she would have been twenty-three, and previous to her marriage would no doubt have had a chamberlain and other officers appointed for her service. That she was ever called Matilda there is no evidence yet discovered; but there is no daughter of Matilda's more likely to have been so. But then we have to get over the awkward fact of Matilda and Constance being separately named in the encyclical letter of 1112. ["Matildem Anglorum reginam, nostri cnobii fondatricem, Adelidem, Mathildem Constantiam, filias ejus." Also in the Bouleau des Morts of the same Abbey we read: Ç "Orate pro nostria Mathilde Regina etttt Wiiiiillielmoooo ejus filio atque pro filiabus ejus Adelide, Mathilde, Constancia." -- Recherches sur le Domesday, p. 234.] Matilda is consequently, as Mr. Freeman truly describes her, "without a history." The vexed question of Gundrada will be discussed in the chapter comprising the biography of her husband, William, Earl of Warren and Surrey, and in connection with it the presumed widowhood of Matilda of Flanders, and her passion for Brihtric Meaw.
F ii
Adeliza was born 1055. She died about 1065.
F iii
Cecilia of Holy Trinity Abbess of Caen was born 1056. She died 30 Jul 1126.
M iv
Richard Duke of Bernay was born 1057/1058 in Normandy, France. He died about 1081.
M v
William II "Rufus" King of England was born 1060 in Normandy, France. He died 2 Aug 1100 in New Forest, Hampshire, England.
F vi
Constance was born 1061 in Normandy, France. She died 13 Aug 1090 in Brittany, France.
F vii
Adela (Adelle) was born 1062 in Normandy, France. She died 8 Mar 1137 in Marcigny-sur-Loire, France.

Became a Nun at Cluniac Priory in widowhood.
F viii
Agatha was born about 1064. She died 1079.
305291778 M ix Henry I "Beauclerc" King of England was born about Sep 1068 and died 1 Dec 1135.
F x
Matilda died before 1112.

It was thought that Matilda (Gundred) married William de Warren, 1st Earl of Surrey. That has since been disproved. For details see "Early
Yorkshire Charters" by C. T. Clay or "tudes sur Quelques Points de
l'Histoire de Guillame le Conqurant" by H. Prentout described under
Surrey in "The Complete Peerage" by G.E. Gibbs.

610583558. Malcolm III Canmore King of Scotland was born 1 1031 in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland. He died 1 13 Nov 1093 in Alnwick Castle, Northumbria, England. Malcolm married 1 St. Margaret "The Exile" Atheling on 1068 in Dunfermline Abbey, Fife, Scotland. [Parents]

610583559. St. Margaret "The Exile" Atheling 1 was born 1 1045 in Hungary. She died 1 16 Nov 1093 in Edinburgh Castle, Scotland and was buried in Dunfermline Abbey, Fife, Scotland. [Parents]

BIOGRAPHY: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal01512

Canonized 1250 and her feast day is 16th November. In 1057 she arrived at the English court of Edward the Confessor. Ten years later she was in exile after William defeated Harold at the Battle of Hastings. She fled to Scotland where she was married against her wishes to King Malcolm to whom she bore six sons and two daughters. Her unlearned and boorish husband grew daily more graceful and Christian under the queen's graceful influence. Her remains were removed to Escorial Spain and her head Douai, France.

http://www.talweb.com/redlimey/gene/saxonkings.htm#MARGARET
Queen Margaret, "a saintly and determined young woman," began to strip the old Scottish traditions and ways from society. She brought with her the modern culture of England and the current religious beliefs of the Catholic church. Amoung other things, she imposed all the English religious practices upon the Scottish clergy. She was successful in nearly completely erradicating what little was left of the ancient Celtic and Druidic practices. She also saw to the rebuilding of the Monastery of Iona.

St. Margaret died 16 Nov 1093, three days after her husband was killed in an ambush. Her last words are said to have been a prayer of thanks to God for the pain and sadness which purified her in her last days. Her burial is believed to be at the Monastery of Iona. Although I have found no exact mention of this, I have found referance that all kings (and presumably their queens) were buried here up until it was taken by King Magnus Barelegs of Norway in 1098.

For all her actions and benefactions, she was canonized by the Catholic Church in 1251 and became Saint Margaret.

They had the following children:

M i
Edward was born 1057/1084. He died 16 Nov 1093 in Edwardsisle, Jedburgh.
M ii
Edmund I King of Scotland was born 1057/1085. He died 1063/1165 in Montacute Abbey, Somerset.
M iii
AEthelred Abbot of Dunkeld was born 1057/1085. He died before 1098.
M iv
Edgar King of Scotland was born about 1074. He died 8 Jan 1106/1107.
M v
Alexander I "The Fierce" King of Scotland was born 1 about 1080 in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland. He died 2 23 Apr 1124 in Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
305291779 F vi Matilda (Edith) Atheling Princess of Scotland was born 1079 and died 1 May 1118.
M vii
David I "The Saint" Dunkeld King of Scotland was born 1 about 1080 in Scotland. He died 1 24 May 1153 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England.
F viii
Mary Dunkeld Princess of Scotland 1 was born about 1084 in Scotland. She died 1 31 May 1116 in Bermonsey Prory, London, England and was buried in Abbey of St Saviour, Bermondsey, London, Middlesex, England.

610583560. William VIII (Guillaume) Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Poitiers was born about 1026. He died 25 Sep 1086 in Chateau de Chize, Deux-Sevres, Poitou-Charentes, France. William married Hildegard of Burgundy about 1069. [Parents]

Founded the Priory of St. Gemma in Xaintonge. Some sources say died 1021, but no Duke of Aquitaine died then according to Stammtafeln.

610583561. Hildegard of Burgundy was born 1050. She died after 1104. [Parents]

They had the following children:

305291780 M i William IX "The Troubadour" Duke of Aquitaine was born 22 Oct 1071 and died 10 Feb 1126.

610583587. Agnes of Aquitaine was born 1085/1116. She died 1140/1203. Agnes was married about 1135 in Jaca. [Parents]

She had the following children:

305291793 F i Ramirez Petronilla Queen of Aragon was born 1099/1137 and died 17 Oct 1174.

610583604. William (Guillaume) III de Macon Count of Macon and Auxonne was born about 1088 in Burgandy, France. He died 27 Sep 1155. William married Poncette de Treves on 1088/1140. [Parents]

610583605. Poncette de Treves was born about 1090 in Treves, France. She died about 1156.

They had the following children:

305291802 M i Gerard I Count of Macon and Vienne was born about 1112 and died 15 Sep 1184.
M ii
Stephen (Etienne) II de Macon Count of Auxonne and Traves was born about 1122 in France. He died after 21 Jul 1173.

610583606. Walter III died 15 Aug 1175.

He had the following children:

305291803 F i Maurette of Salins died 15 Sep 1184.

610583616. William (Guillaume) I "The Great" Count of Burgundy and Macon was born about 1024 in Bourgogue, France. He died 12 Nov 1087 in France. William married Stephanie (Etienette) de Longwy of Barcelona before 1060 in Barcelona, Spain. [Parents]

610583617. Stephanie (Etienette) de Longwy of Barcelona was born 1035 in of Barcelona, Spain. She died 30 Jun 1109. [Parents]

They had the following children:

F i
Ermentrude of Burgundy was born 1060 in Burgundy, France. She died 8 Mar 1105.
F ii
Gisela (Gille) Countess of Burgundy-Ivrea was born about 1060 in of Bourgogne, France. She died after 1133.

The sources conflict on who was Gisele's father. Some show Otto William of Burgundy, grandson of Gerbega; another shows William I of Burgundy. I have picked the Stammtafeln version.
F iii
Matilda of Burgundy "Maud" was born about 1063 in Bourgogne, France.
M iv
Stephen (Etienne) I "Tete-Hardi" ("Hard Head") de Macon Count of Burgundy and Macon was born about 1065 in Bourgogne, Marneogne, France. He died 27 May 1102 in Askalon, Burgundy, France from Murdered.
305291808 M v Raymond Conde de Galicia y Coimbr was born about 1065 and died 24 May 1107.
F vi
Sibylle was born 1065. She died after 1103.

610583618. Alfonso VI "The Brave" King of Castile and Leon was born Jun 1040. He died 29 Jun 1109 in Toledo, Spain and was buried in Monastery of Sahegun. Alfonso married Constance Capet of Burgundy on 8 May 1081. [Parents]

610583619. Constance Capet of Burgundy was born 1046. She died 1093. [Parents]

They had the following children:

305291809 F i Urraca Countess of Castile was born 1081 and died 8 Mar 1125/1126.

610583624. Henry Capet Duke of Burgundy was born about 1036 in of Bourgogne, Marne, France. He died 27 Jan 1066 in France. Henry married Sibylle Countess of Barcelona on 1056 in Burgundy, France. [Parents]

610583625. Sibylle Countess of Barcelona was born about 1032 in Barcelona, Spain. She died 1066. [Parents]

They had the following children:

M i
Eudes I "The Red" Borel de Bourgogne Duke of Burgundy was born 1058 in Burgandy, France. He died 23 Mar 1103 in Tarsus, Cilicia, Asia Minor.
305291812 M ii Henry de Bourgogne Count of Portugal was born about 1066 and died 1 Nov 1112.

610583626. Alfonso VI Fernandez King of Leon and Castile died 29 Jun 1109 in Toledo, Spain. He married Agnes de Blois on 1069.

610583627. Agnes de Blois was born 1059. She died 1080. [Parents]

They had the following children:

305291813 F i Teresa of Castile, Queen of Portugal was born 1070 and died 1 Nov 1130.

610583638. Gilbert de l'Aigle was born 1061/1070 in l'Aigle, Orne, France. He died 1118. Gilbert married Julienne de Perche on 1091.

610583639. Julienne de Perche was born 1070. [Parents]

They had the following children:

305291819 F i Marguerite de l'Aigle was born 1100 and died 25 May 1141.

610583665. Helie (Ela) Borel was born 1080. She died 28 Feb 1141/1142. Helie was married about 1115. [Parents]

She had the following children:

305291832 M i Guy II Count of Ponthieu was born 1098/1121 and died 1147.

610583676. Stephen Henry II (Etienne Henri) "The Sage" Count of Blois was born about 1045 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, France. He died 19 May 1102 in Ramula, Holy Land. Stephen married Adela (Adelle) about 1081 in Chartres Cathedral, France. [Parents]

BIOGRAPHY: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal1517
Count of Blois, Champagne, Chartres and Tourain, a crusader under Godfrey de Bouillon, who fell, gallantly fighting against the Infidels at Rames. (Battle of Ascalon actually). Count of Meaux.

610583677. Adela (Adelle) was born 1062 in Normandy, France. She died 8 Mar 1137 in Marcigny-sur-Loire, France. [Parents]

Became a Nun at Cluniac Priory in widowhood.

Stephen and Adela had the following children:

M i
William de Blois Count of Chartres was born 1086. He died 1150.
F ii
Matilda (Maud) de Blois was born 1086. She died 25 Nov 1120 in Drowned in wreck of the White Ship near Barfleur, Manche, France.
F iii
Agnes de Blois was born 1088. She died 1129.
F iv
Eleanor de Blois was born 1089. She died 1147.
F v
Alice de Blois was born 1091 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, France.
M vi
Eudes (Odo) de Blois Count of Champagne and Brie was born about 1092.

The Conqueror and His Companions
by J.R. Planché, Somerset Herald. London: Tinsley Brothers, 1874........

Son of Etienne II, Comte de Champagne and Brie, by Adele, supposed to have been a daughter of Richard II, Duke of Normandy, but by which of his wives or mistresses has not been ascertained. Now if such were the fact, Odo was the nephew of Duke Robert, the father of the Conqueror, and consequently first cousin of the latter and of his sister Adelaide or Adeliza, as far as blood was concerned. A marriage with her, therefore, would have been within the prohibited degrees so rigidly construed by the Church of Rome. William of Jumiegrave;ges, who styles him Count of Champagne, says he was nearly allied to King William by consanguinity, being grandson of Maud, daughter to Richard I, Duke of Normandy, wife of Odo, Earl of Blois and Chartres. This assertion is still more unfortunate, for Maud died childless, and Etienne, the father of our Odo, was the son of the Count of Blois' second wife Ermengarde, daughter of Robert I, Count of Auvergne, whom he married in 1020. I therefore deny the maternal descent of Odo from any near relation of William, Duke of Normandy, of whom he has been set down as a kinsman on the above authority only.

Dugdale, who appears to have been perfectly bewildered respecting him, has printed in his Monasticon two accounts, one from the Book of Meaux, an abbey in Holderness, and the other from the Register of Fountains Abbey, which is nearly verbatim, but in one or two instances more explicit.

The story as told in them is as follows: Odo having killed a magnate of his own country, took refuge in the dominions of his kinsman, William, Duke of Normandy, who gave him, through the intercession of the Archbishop of Rouen, his sister for wife, and subsequently bestowed upon him the island (according to the Book of Meaux), the county (according to the Register of Fountains), of Holderness. To the same Archbishop, not named, he is said to have been indebted for the grant of the county "comitatum" (the Register of Fountains reads "civitatem") of Albemarle on condition that he should attend the primate in any expedition with ten knights, and bear his standard before him.

The author of L'Art de Vérifier les Dates, and Père Anselm follow this s s s s s s s s s account, b bubut spepecicify the Archbishop as Jean de Bayeux, who entertained a great friendship for Odo, and, with the consent of the Chapter, bestowed upon him the lands of Aumale on the above-named condition.

Now let us see what light the crucial test of dates flings upon these statements. Etienne, the father of Odo, could not have been born earlier than 1021, and would have been about sixteen or seventeen when he succeeded his father in 1037 as Comte de Champagne and Brie. Allowing that he married before he was of full age, say 1040, Odo must have been a mere child at his death in 1047/8, when he was immediately dispossessed of his inheritance by his uncle, Thibaut III, legally, it would appear, according to the law at that period, which, if the heir to the lordship was not of sufficient age to receive investiture by the ceremony of girding with the sword, authorized the nearest in blood of full age to claim the succession. Sharp practice, it may be said, but still the law, and one, it may be worth remarking, which would justify the rebellions against William in the first years of his rule had he even been legitimate.

At what time Odo took refuge in the Court of William, Duke of Normandy, is not stated, but he must have been a most precocious young swashbuckler if he killed "a magnate of his own country" before he entered his teens, and the loss of his estates would have been quite sufficient to have caused him at a later period to seek his fortune elsewhere, without having killed anyone fairly or foully.

At the time of the invasion of England Odo would have been about five-and-twenty, and what more likely than, having nothing to lose and everything to gain, he should eagerly have volunteered his services to William? But if we are to believe that Odo was indebted to Jean de Bayeux for the hand of his wife and the lands of Aumale, how could he be the "Sire d'Aubemare" who fought at Senlac in 1066, when the said Jean de Bayeux was not elevated to the primacy till after the death of Archbishop Maurilius in 1067?

The labours of Mr. Stapleton before alluded to, and those of the authors of Recherches sur le Domesday, enable us to solve the riddle in the most satisfactory manner. The old Norman Chroniclers state clearly enough that Odo de Champagne was the husband of the Conqueror's sister, though differing as to the fact of her being of the whole or the half blood, but not one of them had the kindness to inform us, if they knew, that the lady had been twice previously married, and had left issue by each husband.

The facts of the case, which have been elicited from the records of the Church of St. Martin d'Auchi (de Alceio), commonly called of Aumale, from its vicinity to the town of that name, are as follows: In or about the year 1000 a castle was built on the river Eu, now known as the Bresle, at the point where it divides the provinces of Normandy and Picardy, by a certain Guerinfroi (Guerinfrides), who also, in 1027, founded in its neighbourhood the Abbey of St. Martin d'Auchi. This Guerinfroi, who was Sire d'Aumale (not Count, as he has been incorrectly called), had an only daughter named Berta, who became the wife of Hugh II, Comte de Ponthieu, and mother by him of Enguerrand, or Ingleram, Sire d'Aumale in right of his mother, who married Adelaide, sister of the Conqueror, and was killed in an ambush at St. Aubin, near Arques, in 1053, leaving an only daughter, named Adelaide after her mother, and having settled on his wife the lands of Aumale in dower. The widow of Enguerrand, being still young, married secondly, and in the first year of her widowhood, Lambert, Count of Lens, in Artois, and brother of Eustace II, Count of Boulogne, and had by him a daughter, named Judith, whose hand was given by her uncle, William the Conqueror, to Waltheof, Earl of Northumberland. Count Lambert could scarcely have seen the birth of his child, for he was killed at Lille the following year, in a battle between Baldwin, Count of Flanders, and the Emperor Henry III. A widow for the second time, and still in the prime of life, she married, thirdly, Odo of Champagne, by whom she was the mother of Stephen, who, on the death of his elder sister Adelaide, became the first Comte d'Aumale, or Earl of Albemarle, the Seigneurie having been made a Comte by King William, but upon what occasion and at what time we have no evidence.

The name of Adeliza with the title of "Comitissa de Albemarle" occurs in Domesday, but not that of Odo, which first appears in connection with English transactions in 1088 (1st of William Rufus), when Count Odo and his son Stephen gave the manor and church of Hornsea, in the wapentake of Holderness, to the Abbey of St. Mary of York.

This latter fact also leads to the correction of Orderic Vital's assertion, that King William granted the earldom of Holderness to Odo of Champagne at the same time that he distributed cities and counties with great honours and domains among other lords who had assisted him in the Conquest, viz, in 1070. In the first place, Holderness was not an earldom; and in the second, as late as the completion of Domesday, A.D. 1086, the whole district so named was still part of the honour of Drogo de Brevere, a Fleming who had fought for William at Senlac, and received the greater part of the territory of Holderness amongst other portions of the spoil.

The gift of the lands (Dugdale says, of the city) of Aumale to Odo by the Archbishop of Rouen has also to be explained, for as Jean de Bayeux, if it were he, as stated by the author of L'Art de Vérifier les Dates,,,, wassss not advanced to the primacy before 1067, such donatiooon coouuld not have been made previous to the invasion of England, at which period, and as late as 1086, the city and Castle of Aumale, with such lands as had not been given to the church of Auchi, were in possession of Adeliza, as Lady or Countess of Aumale, the wife, or if she were deceased, the stepdaughter of that very Odo.

It depends therefore entirely upon the date of Odo's marriage, whether it was he who, in 1066, was the "Sire d'Aubemare" (in right of his wife) alluded to by the rhyming chronicler as a combatant in the great battle. The evidence brought to light by the industry of Mr. Stapleton, and published by him in the 23rd vol. of the Archaeologia, supplemented by his letter to the late Sir Charles G. Young, Garter-King-of-Arms, and communicated by the latter to the Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica, vol. vi. p. 265, and also set forth by Mr. Stapleton in his notes on the Norman rolls of the Exchequer, has been epitomized by the authors of Recherches sur le Domesday, published in 1842, and it is singular, therefore, that the information of the triple marriage of the Countess of Ponthieu should have escaped the vigilance of Mr. Freeman, who has been led by Mr. Stapleton into the serious error which his later discoveries allowed him to correct, of making Odo the husband of the younger Adelaide, who at the time the record was written had succeeded, as daughter and sole heir of Count Enguerrand, to the "Suzeraineté""" offfff Aumale.....

Whether the expatriated Count of Champagne fleshed his maiden sword at Senlac or not, he appears to have made no mark either for good or for evil in the annals of this country till, misled by ambition, he was induced to join in the conspiracy the collapse of which has given him an unenviable reputation in them.

History is quite silent about him until after the death of the Conqueror, when we are told that Odo found himself embarrassed by his position as a feudatory of William Rufus in England and of Robert Court-heuse in Normandy. He owed allegiance to each; but how could he serve two masters who were at war with one another? He decided in favour of Rufus, and received an English garrison in his Castle of Aumale, which, in conjunction with his son Stephen, he enlarged and strengthened, at the expense of the royal treasury, on the invasion of Normandy by the Red King in 1090.

Five years afterwards, however, he joined in a conspiracy with Robert de Mowbray, William d'Eu, and other disaffected nobles, to depose Rufus and place his own son Stephen d'Aumale upon the throne.

The conspiracy failing in consequence of timely warning having been given to the King, Odo and his son were both arrested, the former thrown into a prison, from which he never emerged alive, and the latter condemned to have his eyes put out; but the piteous prayers of his wife and family, to say nothing of the payment of a considerable sum of money, obtained a remission of his sentence and restoration to liberty. How long Odo lingered in his dungeon is unknown. The exact date of his death is as uncertain as nearly every other part of his history, but it is presumed to have taken place in 1108.

Dugdale says, "the lordships whereof he was possessed, as appears by the Conqueror's Survey, were only these," and he then enumerates certain manors, which, in "the Conqueror's Survey," are distinctly set down as held by Adeliza, Countess of Albemarle, Odo's name, as I have previously stated, not occurring in a single instance throughout the work; but Holderness, he adds, "was not given him till after that Survey." There he is right, as we shall find in the following notice of Drogo de Brevere.
305291838 M vii Theobald IV de Blois Count of Blois and Champagne was born 2 Apr 1093 and died 8 Jan 1151/1152.
M viii
Humbert de Blois Count of Virtus was born about 1094.
F ix
Lithiuse (Adele) de Blois was born about 1094.
M x
Stephen de Blois King of England was born about 1096 in Blois, France. He died 25 Oct 1154 in Dover Castle, Kent, England and was buried in Faversham Abbey, Kent, England.

BIOGRAPHY: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal01397

Reigned 1135-1154. He seized the throne from Matilda who invaded England in 1139. The civil war that followed proved him a brave soldier but revealed his lack of political sense. In 1152, after much of the country had been ravaged in factional fighting and the royal administration had broken down, Stephen recognized Matilda's son Henry as heir to the throne. Duke of Normandy 1135-1144, deposed. Duke of Blois, Count of Mortain, Count of Boulogne.
M xi
Henry de Blois Bishop of Winchester was born about 1099. He died 6 Aug 1171.
M xii
Phillip de Blois Bishop of Chalon died 1100.

610583678. Engelbert II Duke of Carinthia, Margrave of Istre was born about 1065 in Karnten, Austria. He died 13 Apr 1141. Engelbert married Count Utha von Passau. [Parents]

610583679. Count Utha von Passau was born about 1065 in Sulzbach, Oberpfalz, Bavaria. [Parents]

They had the following children:

305291839 F i Mathilde von Sponheim Princess of Carinthia was born 1097 and died 13 Dec 1160.

610583722. Hugh II "the Peaceful" Duke of Burgundy was born about 1088 in Burgundy, France. He died 1142. Hugh married Maud de Turenne on 1103/1135 in Bourgogne, Marne, France. [Parents]

610583723. Maud de Turenne was born about 1090 in of Mayenne, France. She died after 1162 in Beaune, Cote-d'Or, France. [Parents]

They had the following children:

M i
Eudes II Duke of Burgundy was born 1118 in Burgundy, France. He died 27 Sep 1162.
M ii
Raymond de Bourgogne was born 1125. He died 28 Jun 1156.
F iii
Sibylle de Bourgogne was born 1126. She died 19 Sep 1150.
305291861 F iv Matilda de Bourgogne was born 1128 and died Sep 1172.

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