Bob Juch's Kin

Ancestors of Robert Erwin William Juch

Twenty-Eighth Generation

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Jolian de Neville was born about 1140.

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Sir Ralph St. Leger was born about 1248 and died 1290.

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William de Briwere 2nd Lord of Horsley was born about 1145 and died 1226.

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Beatrice de Vaux was born about 1149 and died 24 Mar 1216.

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Ralph de Mortimer was born about 1055 and died 1100.

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	F	i	Gather de Ferrers was born 1168 in Chartley, Staffordshire, England. She died 4 Sep 1201 in France.
76322865	F	ii	Millicent de Ferrers was born about 1060 and died before 10 Mar 1087/1088.
	M	iii	William II de Ferrers 4th Earl of Derby 1, 2 was born 1172 in Ferrers, Derbyshire, England. He died 2 22 Sep 1247. This nobleman, upon the return of King Richard from captivity, took arms in his behalf and, joining the Earl of Chester, besieged Nottingham Castle, which, after a brief resistance, surrendered. For this and other acts of fidelity, he was chosen by the king to sit with the rest of the peers in the great council held at the said castle in Nottingham in the ensuing March. Moreover, at Richard's second coronation he was one of the four that carried the canopy over the king's head. Upon the accession of King John, his lordship, with the Earls of Clare and Chester, and other great men, swore fealty to the new monarch but upon the condition that each person should have his right. His lordship was present at the coronation of King John and 7 June following, being solemnly created Earl of Derby by special charter dated at Northampton, he was girt with a sword by the king's own hands (being the first of whom in any charter that expression was used). He had also a grant of the third penny of all the pleas before the sheriff throughout the whole country whereof he was earl, to hold to him and his heirs as amply as any of his ancestors had enjoyed the same. Moreover, in consideration of 4,000 marks, he obtained another charter from the king of the manor of Higham-Ferrers, Northampton, with the hundred and park; as also of the manors of Bliseworth and Newbottle, in the same shire; which were part of the lands of his great grandfather, William Peverel of Nottingham. King John also conferred upon him a mansion-house situated in the parish of St. Margaret within the city of London, which had belonged to Isaac, a Jew, at Norwich, to hold by the service of waiting upon the king (the earl and his heirs), at all festivals yearly without any cap, but with a garland of the breadth of his little finger upon his head. These liberal marks of royal favor were felt so gratefully by the earl that in all the subsequent struggles between the king and the refractory barons, his lordship never once swerved from his allegiance, but remained true to the monarch; and loyalty to the interests of his son, King Henry III. His lordship assisted at the coronation of the new monarch and immediately after the ensuing Easter, he took part with the famous William Marshall(governor of the king and kingdom), the Earls of Chester and Albemarle, and many other great men in the siege of Mountsorell Castle in Leicestershire, then held by Henry de Braybroke and ten other stout knights. And the same year was likewise with those noble persons at raising the siege of Lincoln, which place the rebellious barons with Lewis, King of France, had invested. His lordship m. Agnes, sister and one of the co-heirs of Ranulph, Earl of Chester, by whom he had two sons, William and Thomas. He died of the gout in 1246 and his countess d. in the same year after a union, according to some authorities, of seventy-five, and by others, of fifty-five years. His lordship was s. by his elder son, William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 196, Ferrers, Earls of Derby] ---------- There is substantial confusion over his name. See The Complete Peerage Vol. 4, p 193 for an account. Personally, I feel there could have been two brothers, William and Robert, Robert being the Earl and when he died at Acre his nephew William son of his brother William succeeded, but no documents support this theory either! In The Complete Peerage vol. XIV, p.250 it is suggested that Robert is a fabrication by Vincent, Earl of Ferrieres. [Brian Tompsett, Directory of Royal Genealogical Data]
	F	iv	Petronella de Ferrers was born about 1175 in Ferrers, Derbyshire, England.

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	F	i	Alice de Meschines 1, 2 was born about 1094 in Gernons Castle, Normandy, France. She died 1154.
76322866	M	ii	William de Meschines Earl of Cambridge was born 1096 and died about 1132.
	M	iii	Ranulph de Gernon 4th Earl of Chester Vicomte de Avranches 1, 2 was born 3 1099 in Guernon Castle, Normandy, France. He died 3 16 Dec 1153 in Chester, Cheshire, England and was buried in St Werburgh, Chester, Cheshire, England. Ranulph de Meschines (surnamed de Gernons, from being born in Gernon Castle, in Normandy), Earl of Chester. This nobleman, who was a leading military character, took an active part with the Empress Maud, and the young Prince Henry, against King Stephen, in the early part of the contest, and having defeated the king and made him prisoner at the battle of Lincoln, committed him to the castle of Bristol. He subsequently, however, sided with the king, and finally, distrusted by all, died under excommunication in 1155, supposed to have been poisoned by William Peverell, Lord of Nottingham, who being suspected of the crime, is said to have turned monk to avoid its punishment. The earl m. Maud, dau. of Robert, surnamed the Consul, Earl of Gloucester, natural son of King Henry I, and had issue, Hugh, his successor, named Keveliok, from the place of his birth, in Merionethshire; Richard; Beatrix, m. to Ralph de Malpas. His lordship was s. by his elder son, Hugh (Keveliok), 3rd Earl of Chester. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 365, Meschines, Earls of Chester] ---------- Ranulf II de Gernons, 4th Earl of Chester, VICOMTE (Viscount) DEBAYEUX, VICOMTE D'AVRANCHES, Ranulf also spelled RANDULF, or RALPH (b. c. 1100--d. Dec. 16, 1153), a key participant in the English civil war (from 1139) between King Stephen and the Holy Roman empress Matilda (also a claimant to the throne of England). Ranulf, nicknamed 'aux Gernons' (i.e. moustaches), played a prominent and vacillating part in the civil war of Stephen's reign, his actions, in common with most of his peers, springing from personal grievances rather than dynastic loyalty or principle. Ranulf's father, Ranulf I, had been granted the earldom of Chester in 1121 after his maternal uncle had drowned in the White Ship disaster (1120) but, in return, had been compelled to surrender Cumberland and his patrimony of Carlisle. The restoration of these lost estates was the mainspring of much of Ranulf II's political life. Inheriting the Chester earldom in 1129, he initially supported Stephen as king after 1135. However, successive treaties between Stephen and King David of Scotland in 1136 and 1139 gave the Scots large tracts of land in Cumberland coveted by Ranulf who reacted by seizing the town and besieging the castle. Ranulf now allied with the Empress Matilda in defeating the king at Lincoln in February 1141, capturing and briefly imprisoning Stephen. Ranulf's association with the Angevin party was cemented by his marriage in 1141 to the daughter of Robert of Gloucester. Later (1149) he transferred his allegiance to the king in return for a grant of the city and castle of Lincoln. Coventry received its original charter from him. However, his territorial ambitions were no closer realization as the king of Scots was also a close ally of Matilda. In 1145, Ranulf was reconciled to Stephen. However, there was no love lost between Ranulf and the king's entourage, many of whom had suffered at his hands. In August, 1146, at Northampton, Ranulf was suddenly arrested and put in chains when he refused the king's demand to restore all lands he had taken. He was only released when he surrendered all former royal property, including Lincoln. Stephen's arrest of Ranulf was a public relations disaster. He had broken his oath of reconciliation of 1145 and his own promise of protection, thus deterring any more defections from the Angevin faction. Stephen had breached a central tenet of effective medieval rule, that of being a good -- i.e. fair -- lord. Ranulf joined Henry FitzEmpress and was reconciled with David of Scotland who, in return for the lavish grant to Ranulf of most of Lancashire, retained Carlisle. But Ranulf was never a party man. His priorities remained centered on his own territorial and dynastic advantage, as shown by his 'conventio' with a leading royalist baron Robert of Leicester (1149/53). Under this treaty, the two magnates , independently of their rival liege-lords Stephen and Henry FitzEmpress, agreed to limit any hostilities forced between them by their masters and to protect their respective tenurial positions. Ranulf's career, notorious for his arrest in 1146, is more significant as evidence that the drama of high politics was played against a dense background of baronial competition for rights, lands, and inheritances which took precedence over any claims of royalty. [Encyclopedia Britannica CD'97, RANULF DE GERNONS, 4TH EARL OF CHESTER]
	F	iv	de Meschines was born about 1102 in of Chester, Cheshire, England.

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	F	i	Lucy de Romilly was born about 1085.
76322867	F	ii	Cecily de Romilly was born about 1100 and died 1151.

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Madog ap Maredydd was born about 1095 and died 1160.

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Eva de Molle was born about 1144.

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Hamelin Plantagenet 5th Earl of Surrey was born 1130 and died 7 May 1202.

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Isabel de Warenne Heiress of Surrey was born 1137 and died 13 Jul 1199.

152645780. John "The Marshal" FitzGilbert is printed as #117966922.

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76322890	M	i	William Marshal 3rd Earl of Pembroke was born 1146 and died 14 May 1219.
	M	ii	Sir John le Marshall was born about 1148 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He died 1194.
	F	iii	Margaret Marshall 1 was born about 1160 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, England. She died after 1242.

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	F	i	Alina de Clare was born 1151/1175. She died 1156/1259.
76322891	F	ii	Isabel FitzGilbert de Clare was born about 1172 and died 1220.
	M	iii	Gilbert de Strigoil Earl of Pembroke 3rd was born about 1173. He died about 1185.

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Hugh IX de Lusignan was born 1144 and died 5 Nov 1219.

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	M	i	Peter (Pierre) II de Courtenay Emperor of Constantinople was born 1155 in Courtenay, Galinois, France. He died Jun 1219 in Epirus, Turkey.
76322895	F	ii	Alice de Courtenay was born about 1160 and died about 1218.
	M	iii	Robert de Courtenay Emperor of Constantinople was born about 1166. He died 1239.

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	F	i	Rosamond de Clifford was born 1136 in Clifford Castle, Clifford, Hertfordshire, England. She died 1176 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England.
	M	ii	Richard de Clifford was born about 1138 in Richards Castle, Herefordshire, England. He died 1213.
	F	iii	Lucy de Clifford was born about 1141 in Clifford Castle, Herefordshire, England. She died after 1195 in Richards Castle, Herefordshire, England.
76322912	M	iv	Lord Walter II de Clifford Sheriff of Hereford was born about 1145 and died 1223.

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Agnes de Condet Lady of Cavenby was born about 1165.

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